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I like that you've put the tables in, the pages look more professional now, and more usable.  But mind if I reformat them to [[Spear|this style]]?  It's a slow process, which is why I'm glad there's something already there, and the armor needs to be up first since there's very little armor up at the moment, but maybe later? -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 00:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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:It doesn't really matter to me. I just like having things separated because there is less clutter, easier to sift through, seems more organized, and its easier to edit separate sections. There's still a few more pages without tables regardless. I guess you can knock those out first before with the style. Or maybe try to get a poll on which style people like :D, because there's like 3 separate table formats for weapons currently: [[Spear]], [[Lightsabre]], and [[Cross]] - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 00:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::I just looked at the three templates. First template gives the needed information, and looks professional with the pictures. Second template gives the same information, but adds the quotes that are put on some weapons, that can be gotten rid of and put onto the weapon's specific page. Third template is the weapons template I made, but its not designed to be put into a list, it simply has too much information on it and takes up too much room. So I suggest using the first template that Ladywinter made and just make the names link to the pages where we can use the larger and more comprehensive weapon template. ~ [[User:Illara|Illara]] 01:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::They all contain the needed information. It's just how the information is displayed is the importance. Its basically this: one long sortable table vs multiple small tables broken down by level bracket - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 01:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::I was thinking just use the list Ladywinter made, and then create a separate page for each weapon. You can add extra information about it on its own page: quotes, how to obtain, recipe's, etc. That way we have a concise sortable list, and an area to expand on each item. ~ [[User:Illara|Illara]] 01:19, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::I'm fine with that...sometimes the weapons have alot of info...and when you want a table you don't necessarily want/need the recipes/quotes -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 02:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::::Creating a separate page for each weapon is unnecessary, but for weapons created through recipe and obtained through quests, sure, its fine to add a separate page detailing what mats are needed or what quest you need to do. But for every other weapon, you're just re-listing all the details already available in the table except adding trivial information like gold sell value and how much weight it takes up in your inventory. Quotes/item description may not be needed on the current/future table, but I just added it out of flavor and boredom. It also eliminates the need to make a new separate page for the weapon just to list the quote. Not all items even have any description anyways. It's mostly Slayer weapons, Orange items, witch weapons, and some fighter items. So it won't clutter the page all that much.
 
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::::::Anyways, as long as the essential information is there, I don't really see the need to change the current table format when its already on 19/25 weapon pages already. They all may not be completed, but its still there with most of the weapon names for easy editing. I personally like it how its formatted. I wanted it sorted like the JP wiki, but instead of sorting it by rarity, I opted sorting it by levels just to change it up a bit. But in the end, its 2 against 1 and I can't really do anything about it. I'll just keep editing whatever is there/needs fixing. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 03:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::::Honestly, I'm fine with a system so long as it's usable.  If you like the table format we can put the quotes into the Notes section.  And to make the tables sortable is easy, the Spear page is currently sortable, that's why the rarity is it's own column.  ...hmm, I should perhaps add a note on how to sort the things at the top. x.x -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 03:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::::::I'll still work with whatever. I'm just more biased towards the current tables because of working with them for awhile. As long as its broken down to smaller table categories at least, be it by levels or rarity or whatever. Like when [[Green Items]] was all one table. There was so much stuff, it becomes a pain to look through despite being sortable, let alone edit. Even still, when broken up by armor categories, there's a lot of clutter, but its still better off before. Maybe I'm just being nit-picky, but I just don't like really long tables. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 03:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::The table format is not bad.  Put pictures, some info, and it might be complete.  One thing: it's a ''little'' clustered up, so you should edit it to group it into parts.  And why put the orange/purple/pink items first?  Shouldn't you include blue items first?  The majority of items are blue. --[[User:TechnicalDeath|-Regards, TechnicalDeath]] 04:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::Can you link the table you're referring to? Some tables are broken up and do have pictures. Of course a lot of it is incomplete, because only a few people have been working on it on their spare time. Also, I did purple/pink/orange first because its what most people are interested about. They want to know the stats of rare items, so they know what items to look forward to. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 04:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::::I will try to make a table for blue items, and put them all somewhere.  The thing is, I actually suck at table formatting but I make websites - and that's a REALLY wierd thing.--[[User:TechnicalDeath|-Regards, TechnicalDeath]] 04:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::I re-read this and realized I'd missed something during the first read thru.  Shorter tables?  x.x  To be honest I kinda prefer the longer one 'cause you can sort the whole thing.  I do prefer sorting by levels instead of rarity tho.  Hmmm, what about a compromise: 15 levels per table?  That's small enough to have the table comfortably fit on a regular monitor, I think.  -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 16:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::I feel that its neater that way, but it really doesn't matter in the end. We should just get all the info down first. Then if you want to change it, feel free to. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 22:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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==Green or Purple?==
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If you know the Female Gunner's Awakening Moves, even a general understanding about what they do, can you go ahead and make a basic page for it? We can mod them later, but It'd be nice to have it ahead of time, I'm also a bit curious about them :P [[User:Copain|Copain]] 03:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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I...am a bit confuddled.  Are legacy items green or are they purple?  ::scratches head:: -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 04:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:Legacy armor equips are green. Legacy weapons are purple - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 04:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::...wut.  DDD=  -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 04:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::Well there are Legacy Items for Armor and Weapons. The Legacy armors are green, and the legacy weapons are purple. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 05:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::lol, I'm less wut at what you said than the fact that the developers didn't make their game consistent.  -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 16:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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:Outside of a few videos, I am as about as clueless as you are. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 03:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
  
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::What about the Subclass features (Such as the Male Ranger having a Cig)? I plan on making a Female Ranger (I normally dislike playing Females, but I hate the Cig with such a passion that I refuse to use it (not anti smoking or anything, it's just annoying). I recall the Female Spit also having the Ammo Packs like the Male, and the Female Mechanic (I think) has the same little robot following her like the Male does. Not sure about the others though, and I want to know about the Female Ranger because I heard it was different. [[User:Copain|Copain]] 17:13, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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your edit was not exactly accurate there are 2 aktans with different crits and at least one that specifically does NOT have the -1%hit bonus, taking them out makes it so that specifically those that benefti from 'lacking'the stats are not seen as such, did you not realize this when making the change? ~Aselus
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:::http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/CopainChevalier/Sprites/Snap.jpg This avatar previewer might be of help... If you don't bother to do it I will try sometime. http://www.geocities.jp/aradsimu/gunnergirl.html is the site.. [[User:Copain|Copain]] 17:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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:If it doesn't have the default Crit or Hit bonus, it can easily be stated into that Katana's stats. Which Katanas are you specifically talking about? - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 23:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::tbh the only one i really remember is Legacy: Katana of Lauvi, would haveto look through them again to see if there was another. ~aselus
 
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:::Ok added the line "Hit Rate ± 0%" to those that don't have the normal hit rate and not the -1% hit rate. (31-40) - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 02:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::Thanks ^_^ ~--[[User:Aselus|Aselus]] 18:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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==monster table!==
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== Please contact me privately ==
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I like it!  I do wish that there could somehow be squeezed in a map tho, location marked with a green person icon or something.  Perhaps on the right?  =\ dunno. -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 20:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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:How about that? Feel free to edit it a bit, as I'm not super proficient with tables. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 23:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 
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::I like it!  Though I'm a bit concerned about consistency as there's many shapes of maps.  hmmm.. what about this:
 
  
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Hello.
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Could you please contact me privately on the Mabinogi World forums?  We really need to get this mess under control.  I use the same username there as I do here.  Or query "IJ" on IRC and we can talk further.
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Thanks!  --[[User:Irjustman|Irjustman]] 20:40, 12 February 2011 (PST)
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== User "SpamUserSink" user ==
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Just so you know, the user "[[User:SpamUserSink|SpamUserSink]]" is one I created so I have an account to merge all the spam accounts we've been catching since before I put in setups to block these spambots we've been seeing.  It is not safe to delete users with MediaWiki, so I created that "Sink" account to merge spambot accounts to so I can do just that.  Thankfully, your block did not affect my IP address because I'm already marked as an administrator.  If I lost the ability to edit this wiki, there likely would have been a problem since I own the machine.  --[[User:Irjustman|Irjustman]] 02:45, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
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:I might have reacted too soon.  I may have merged a user already and it substitutes the old user's name with the "SpamUserSink" name for all edits any merged user had done. I apologize if I panicked.  --[[User:Irjustman|Irjustman]] 02:57, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
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::Lol, well that's good news then. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 16:39, 21 April 2011 (PDT)
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== Alchemy Vit/Str images ==
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::that ought to give enough room for both extra notes and the different map shapes... -- [[User:Ladywinter|Ladywinter]] 00:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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I noticed the images for the Vitality and Strength potions in the Alchemy page are actually the other way around. Is there any way to change the file names for those files and swap them without having to re-upload those images, since re-uploading will prompt that the file is already uploaded?
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--[[User:Junk|Junk]] 21:06, 21 April 2011 (PDT)
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I spent a few hours updating the class pages and fixing video errors while adding videos for the Female gunner and was proud of myself saying I did a lot of work... Then you come along and add a ton of pages for Theives! JERK! YOU MAKE ME LOOK BAD!! [[User:Copain|Copain]] 22:13, 31 May 2011 (PDT)
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:I only added skill vids ~_~ - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 23:38, 31 May 2011 (PDT)
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== Uploading images ==
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Hi, I wanted to upload some monster images and got a page saying that file uploading is disabled. Do I need more permissions or something? Thanks. [[User:Wooleen|Wooleen]] 23:25, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
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:I'm getting it too. I'm not sure myself, but try contacting http://wiki.dfo-world.com/index.php?title=User:Irjustman as he owns the wiki. I think you might have a better chance posting on the Mabinogi Wiki forums - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 23:43, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
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::Ok, I posted on his talk page. I'll wait for a bit then I'll post in the mabinogi wiki forums. Thanks :) [[User:Wooleen|Wooleen]] 23:53, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
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==Vandals==
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Hey, do we have a page or something for recording vandals? Just found a recent one...[[user:Exile1|Exile1]] messing up the page for Hell Mode. -- [[User:Blakdoxa|BlakDoxa]] 20:37, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
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:Recording or reporting vandals? If it's reporting, just uhh leave a message on my talk page or visitor message me on DFOS. - [[User:HellMuT|HellMuT]] 21:16, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 20:16, 24 July 2011

If you know

If you know the Female Gunner's Awakening Moves, even a general understanding about what they do, can you go ahead and make a basic page for it? We can mod them later, but It'd be nice to have it ahead of time, I'm also a bit curious about them :P Copain 03:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Outside of a few videos, I am as about as clueless as you are. - HellMuT 03:45, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
What about the Subclass features (Such as the Male Ranger having a Cig)? I plan on making a Female Ranger (I normally dislike playing Females, but I hate the Cig with such a passion that I refuse to use it (not anti smoking or anything, it's just annoying). I recall the Female Spit also having the Ammo Packs like the Male, and the Female Mechanic (I think) has the same little robot following her like the Male does. Not sure about the others though, and I want to know about the Female Ranger because I heard it was different. Copain 17:13, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/CopainChevalier/Sprites/Snap.jpg This avatar previewer might be of help... If you don't bother to do it I will try sometime. http://www.geocities.jp/aradsimu/gunnergirl.html is the site.. Copain 17:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Please contact me privately

Hello.

Could you please contact me privately on the Mabinogi World forums? We really need to get this mess under control. I use the same username there as I do here. Or query "IJ" on IRC and we can talk further.

Thanks! --Irjustman 20:40, 12 February 2011 (PST)

User "SpamUserSink" user

Just so you know, the user "SpamUserSink" is one I created so I have an account to merge all the spam accounts we've been catching since before I put in setups to block these spambots we've been seeing. It is not safe to delete users with MediaWiki, so I created that "Sink" account to merge spambot accounts to so I can do just that. Thankfully, your block did not affect my IP address because I'm already marked as an administrator. If I lost the ability to edit this wiki, there likely would have been a problem since I own the machine. --Irjustman 02:45, 20 April 2011 (PDT)

I might have reacted too soon. I may have merged a user already and it substitutes the old user's name with the "SpamUserSink" name for all edits any merged user had done. I apologize if I panicked. --Irjustman 02:57, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
Lol, well that's good news then. - HellMuT 16:39, 21 April 2011 (PDT)

Alchemy Vit/Str images

I noticed the images for the Vitality and Strength potions in the Alchemy page are actually the other way around. Is there any way to change the file names for those files and swap them without having to re-upload those images, since re-uploading will prompt that the file is already uploaded? --Junk 21:06, 21 April 2011 (PDT)

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I spent a few hours updating the class pages and fixing video errors while adding videos for the Female gunner and was proud of myself saying I did a lot of work... Then you come along and add a ton of pages for Theives! JERK! YOU MAKE ME LOOK BAD!! Copain 22:13, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

I only added skill vids ~_~ - HellMuT 23:38, 31 May 2011 (PDT)

Uploading images

Hi, I wanted to upload some monster images and got a page saying that file uploading is disabled. Do I need more permissions or something? Thanks. Wooleen 23:25, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

I'm getting it too. I'm not sure myself, but try contacting http://wiki.dfo-world.com/index.php?title=User:Irjustman as he owns the wiki. I think you might have a better chance posting on the Mabinogi Wiki forums - HellMuT 23:43, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
Ok, I posted on his talk page. I'll wait for a bit then I'll post in the mabinogi wiki forums. Thanks :) Wooleen 23:53, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

Vandals

Hey, do we have a page or something for recording vandals? Just found a recent one...Exile1 messing up the page for Hell Mode. -- BlakDoxa 20:37, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

Recording or reporting vandals? If it's reporting, just uhh leave a message on my talk page or visitor message me on DFOS. - HellMuT 21:16, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
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