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20:37, 9 May 2019 Kurisu (talk | contribs)

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On my Elementalist, the MP cost for Magic Missile lvl 1 shows 8 (in white text) but on my Battle Mage it shows as 7 (in blue text). Is there a reason for this difference? When updating Skill Growth tables, which one should I use?

10:15, 9 May 2019

Sorry if I am intruding in this conversation, but I can answer this for you.

Blue text (for Cooldown or MP Consumption) means that there is a reduction attribute effect affecting that certain stat, in this case your Mana costs. White text means that it is the base value. Red text means that the value has been increased.

I'm assuming you're using a Spear. Spears have the following common attributes:

  • Physical Skill MP Cost +5%
  • Physical Skill Cooldown Time +5%
  • Magical Skill MP Cost -5%
  • Magical Skill Cooldown Time -5%
  • Physical Critical Rate +2%

So for Magic Missile in particular, because it is a magic skill, it's MP cost and cooldown are lowered by 5%. To find the base value either equip a Pole or just divide the blue number by 0.95.

Usually we'd want to use the white text for base values since weapons adjust the stats of skills, but this can be easily adjusted with a bit of mathematics.

11:55, 9 May 2019

Oh, I see now. I was going crazy last night trying to find the reason for the discrepancy and I can't believe I forgot about weapons affecting the stats.

So I need to either equip a Pole or divide the blue number by 0.95, but what about just un-equipping the Spear altogether? I get 8 MP without any weapon, but if I divide 7 MP by 0.95 I get 7.368 ...

12:19, 9 May 2019

That doesn't necessarily work for all cases. Most classes have a default base weapon. I believe Mage's default weapon is a Rod.

Here's the Rod's attributes:

  • Physical Skill MP Cost -5%
  • Physical Skill Cooldown Time -5%
  • Hit Rate -1%
  • Casting Speed +5%

If you're updating skills that deal magic damage then you should be fine. However, if you're updating physical skills you'll need to do some math.

That being said we have been trying to standardize the use of a new table format. Here's a link to it if you're interested. The new format uses a simulated loop to iterate through the table rows given mathematical equations for each skill option. To be simply put, you'll only need to enter in the values once in an equation and the table will automatically calculate the rest for you.

12:42, 9 May 2019

Oh, ok. I'll make sure to be aware of that when updating physical skills.

And OMG, that new table format's a godsend. I've been updating tables manually. Thanks to whoever came up with that.

12:46, 9 May 2019

To increase the table length (or add more rows), just add more numbers within the brackets of:

{{#arraydefine:maxrow|1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}}

You can also use this to skip to certain rows if you deem it necessary.

Feel free to change the Table Headers as you see fit.

Most of the values just need to be plugged in. To read more about that, there should be a link under the first table or just press here.

13:10, 9 May 2019