NPC/Dungeon/Lore Navigation Templates

The readability is fine for my screen. The small text keeps it nice and tidy in my opinion.

Of course manually entering new NPCs will be troublesome down the road. So a more efficient way of doing it is to modify the Template:NPCs to add metadata on location. Then using semantic wiki, you can auto generate the navigational template tablwe, since we have the extension enabled.

It is different from DPL, as we have in Template:SkillNav. That one uses categories, and creating 15 categories in the form "<town> NPCs" is probably a hassle.

Do the same metadata with the dungeons template and auto generating the list should be a snap.

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However, in terms of usability, dungeons navigational would be more useful. How many users are going to go from one NPC to another NPC? I see myself looking at NPCs from quest line or maybe skill learning.

With dungeons, I see myself jumping to the next dungeon page after I level up a couple times.

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I don't mind the Lore navigational template. However, the fifth text note is overlapping on the hiddenTextHeader. Fix it by adding |height=5 to the Template:Note Row in section |Row1={{note row

Dfoplayer (talk)

I added semantics so we should be able to query locations now.

Example

Dfoplayer (talk)

Sorry for the late reply.

Okay, I'll get around to updating those pages on Monday. I need to finish leveling my Specialist to Lv90 first, since maintenance is tomorrow.

Altair (talk)

Altair (talk)

Most definitely.

First, I want to know how is "Removed dungeons" labeled. If we can re-use, say a "removed" category, we should be able to #ask Semantics to filter. {{#ask: [[Category:!Removed Content]] }} If not, we need to create another property. Can you give me an example of removed content?

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On the subject on improving the nav list, add |sort=Has dungeon entrance level requirement to your #ask, as shown in my EtchASketch. The Grand Flores list now matches the one on page "Category:Grand_Flores_dungeons" instead of alphabetical order.

Dfoplayer (talk)

Thanks for the reply.

The best example would be Time Gate. If the Removed Content filter is applied then Black Crusade, Tangled Time Gate, and Time Break should not appear.

Altair (talk)

Oh, I'm sorry, I misread. From Semantic page, "It is not possible to ask for all pages of a query that are not in a specific category". #ask: [[Category:!Removed Content]] actually looks for "!Removed Content" category.

Setting a property in Template:RemovedContent solves half the problem, say "Is Removed=True". Semantic wiki can not search for pages that do not have properties. Since normal dungeons do not have "Is Removed=False", the #ask query can not filter on that.

I'll look into a workaround. :/

Dfoplayer (talk)

What we could do is use Dynamic Page list to filter categories. {{#dpl: |category = Time Gate Dungeons |notcategory = Removed Content

Example. Downside is that we lose semantic properties, like sorting by lvl requirement.

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If we can find a way to combine DPL with semantics, major changes to DFO wiki's list could be updated. Way back in 2016, we discussed on how should skill lists by displayed using DPL. With semantics, sorting by level should be a snap.

Although, now that I am thinking about it, do you happen to have any thoughts if we have "Removed Content" skills? IF not, we should move Template:ClassSkills into semantic wiki for better sorting.

Dfoplayer (talk)

I currently have no issues about Removed Content skills or any removed content for that matter.

Though, is it possible for the inline queries to detect Removed Content pages by using an #if statement? If so, could it output '(Removed)' after the page name to allow users to know beforehand? Ex. Arctic Booster (Removed).

Altair (talk)

Found a work around. Using set operations, we can perform a set difference to "subtract" <removed content> from <all results>.

Using this, (User:Dfoplayer/TestFilterRemovedContent) the code in your navigational table should look like { {User:Dfoplayer/TestFilterRemovedContent|catePara=Time Gate Dungeons|sortPara=Has dungeon entrance level requirement}}

I think this is a good start. If you like it, I'll a few more days to make it scalable to work with other templates. Navigation requires a single line list while the skills should be in a table format.

Dfoplayer (talk)

Looks good to me. Thanks for all your hard work. :)

Altair (talk)