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| | [[User talk:Dfoplayer/Archive01|Archive 1]] From December 2011 to January 2013<br> | | [[User talk:Dfoplayer/Archive01|Archive 1]] From December 2011 to January 2013<br> |
| − | [[User talk:Dfoplayer/Archive02|Archive 2]] From May 2014 to June 2015 | + | [[User talk:Dfoplayer/Archive02|Archive 2]] From May 2014 to June 2015<br> |
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| + | [[User talk:Dfoplayer/Archive03|Archive 3]] From July 2015 to September 2015 |
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| − | == What why ==
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| − | Why did you mess up a lot of the basic skills (assumin it was you, I noticed you did it for the Dark Knight). The pages look far uglier with all the skills not having their boxes. [[User:Copain|Copain]] ([[User talk:Copain|talk]]) 22:31, 9 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Uhh, which part of [[Dark Knight]]? Everspace created [[:Template:ClassSkills]] so that any time we add new skills, the list will auto generate and no need to add in Dark Knight/Skills page. If needed, I'll look around to see if we can change the DPL extension output to boxes instead of bullets. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 22:39, 9 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::Yeah I never mentioned before but I agree with Copain. I like the skills better when they look like they're in tables instead of the bullet format.--[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 17:51, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::It is very hard to configure DPL to output in tables, for someone who doesn't know HTML and CSS.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 20:27, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::EDIT: I think I got it, [[User:Dfoplayer#Test DPL table|check it out]]. Is this what you guys were looking for?--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 21:09, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::::Better then what we currently have. [[User:Copain|Copain]] ([[User talk:Copain|talk]]) 15:39, 11 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | == Toggle category ==
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| − | For Skill page Type 3, is it supposed to be toggable? All I get when searching around is recommendation to use togglable or toggleable. I want to make sure right now so every skill is using the same spelling for categorizing later. In addition, what counts as a togglable skill? Do passive skills you can turn off count like [[Insanity]] or only use it for skills like [[Frenzy]] that last until canceled or you run out of resource to maintain it. I noticed passives like insanity are grouped as conversion skills in game.--[[User:Lokd|Lokd]] ([[User talk:Lokd|talk]]) 08:48, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :For now, yes, Type3 means to be Toggable or blank. I understand your searching, so I asked [[User:AradEditGuy]] for F Slayer's Tooltip description. He said it did not specifically say Toggable and it said something like "Press the Skill Key to turn it on or off" so I went with the spelling [http://wiki.dfo-world.com/index.php?title=Template:SkillPage&oldid=67361#Parameters Everspace had].
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| − | :I do not know what category "Conversion" for passives is, so your going to have to ask someone else. If needed, we can add that to |Type3, which is why I did not pick |Toggable=y/n, to allow new categories in the future.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 09:51, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::Ok, that page has it spelt as togglable but the current page has it spelt as toggable.
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| − | ::Adding it to type 3 sounds like the plan as I don't think a skill can be both togglable and a conversion skill. Or maybe that is just over complicating things and we can just consider them togglable. You can see what I am talking about with passives being grouped as conversion skills if you click the arrow next to your hotkey bar.[[ Conversion]] is always there as well as any passives you have that can be turned off, seen [https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ep24k6an00nr01/ScreenShot2015_0712_111446499.jpg?dl=0 here]--[[User:Lokd|Lokd]] ([[User talk:Lokd|talk]]) 10:19, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::LOL. I spelled it wrong. My bad. Let me fix asap. As for [[Conversion]] we can put it at |type3=Togglable.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 10:46, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::Fixed. Another thing to note is that some skills that are using SkillPage have hard coded categories like [[Wave Manifestation Brand]]. Those need to be removed.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 10:57, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ==GIF for M Striker and M Nen Master==
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| − | Just edited M Striker and M Nen Master for its 2nd awakening name, artwork, and GIF. But the GIF seems that it doesn't play but you can click it to open the page and see it to play. So I have no idea how it to play normally on info panel. Let me know if you can fix this, thanks! --[[User:Aero X 999|Aero X 999]] ([[User talk:Aero X 999|talk]]) 22:39, 15 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Most likely it is caused by going over the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxAnimatedGifArea mediawiki limit.] Try to cut out as much white space as you can and resize the gif to be smaller. If you look at [[:File:Eclipse Ani.gif]], the file size 421 KB while yours is over 1 MB. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 22:53, 15 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::Oh thanks for letting me know, I had no idea how that it limit the MB for GIF, I'll edit right away. --[[User:Aero X 999|Aero X 999]] ([[User talk:Aero X 999|talk]]) 23:05, 15 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::Ok, edited and fixed; now it works! Thanks again! --[[User:Aero X 999|Aero X 999]] ([[User talk:Aero X 999|talk]]) 23:24, 15 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | Great, I just fixed by resizing the GIF and checked it again and now it doesn't work properly. --[[User:Aero X 999|Aero X 999]] ([[User talk:Aero X 999|talk]]) 01:46, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Sometimes, the browser has an old image for the web page. Makes them load faster. On the very top (right to history button), there is a dropdown arrow. Click refresh, exit the page, and re enter the page. My phone displays the GIFs properly except for [[:File:NenEmperor1.gif]]. That one still needs to be resized.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 07:12, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | == Handling Skill Info for the Metastatis Project ==
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| − | Hey, so I tried out applying the new [[:Template:SkillPage]] to [[Block Throw]], [[Torpedo]], and [[Muse's Uppercut]]. Once all the skill pages use the template, it automatically covers that minor categorization step mentioned on The Great Skill Metastasis Project page. I'd like to go about converting all the non-template pages en masse like I did for (most) of the skill icons, but I'm assuming the main goal of the metastasis page is to show a list of skills pages with info that's updated (use the skill template) vs. outdated (don't use the skill template). So there's 2 options here, I can either
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| − | :1. Spend countless hours converting pages (I'd only be able to copy the info already on existing pages), and label them with <pre> {{Missing Info}} </pre> like I did for [[Torpedo]] and [[Muse's Uppercut]]. Or use some other method to label pages with outdated info.
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| − | :2. Spend a more amount of normal hours filling pages for the classes I play with glorious information (Male Brawler, Dark Knight, some f. slayer sometime soon) and leave the rest up whoever decides to work on stuff.
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| − | I'm more a fan of Option 1, since it makes updating info more accessible to more people. From what I've seen there aren't too many people working on metastasis, meaning this isn't gonna get done anytime soon. So if it can get to the point where the only stuff left to do is updating the skill info, you could try and ask around to all the people who play a certain class and ask them to just fill in the blanks. Totally fine with Option 2 too though, so I can move on to other things.
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| − | I personally was planning on option 1, where I was going to migrate as many skills pages as I can to SkillPage. Except I didn't expect my summer internship to be time consuming.
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| − | When converting, just keep the youtube code in the |Video part of skillpage
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| − | <pre>|Video={{youtube_tn|eE7TV_YDLPc}}</pre> should be <pre>|Video=eE7TV_YDLPc</pre> --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 13:03, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | Alright then, guess I'll start on some. Since [[Template:Outdated]] is on the main page, I think I'm gonna use that instead of the [[Template:Missing Info]] tag to make the project more visible.--[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 14:51, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Since both do the same thing, I would prefer MissingInfo than Outdated, because it adds the pages to a missing info category. I will do a text replace on all pages and delete Outdated. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 16:55, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::Shit man, gotta get more people on this. Blade Master active skills alone took ~2.5 hours--[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 17:26, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :::Seems reasonable. Took me a couple hours to convert all Summoner Skills. I'll try to set some time aside during nights, but I love my internship. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 20:24, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | Finished Male Slayer upgrades in about ~20min. The way I do it is take the same type, type2 skill that someone or I finished, like [[Mountainous Wheel Upgrade]], copy and paste
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| − | <pre>{{SkillPage
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| − | |Name=Mountainous Wheel Upgrade
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| − | |Class=Male Slayer
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| − | |Type=Passive
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| − | |Type2=TP
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| − | |PrerequisiteLevel=50
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| − | |PrerequisiteSkill={{IconLink|Mountainous Wheel}} level 10+
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| − | |Description=Increases Jump Height, Bleeding duration, Attack Power, and Shockwave range for {{IconLink|Mountainous Wheel}}.
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| − | |Attributes=
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| − | *{{TP per level|1}}
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| − | </pre>
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| − | and modify certain things, like <nowiki>|Name={{PAGENAME}}</nowiki>, skill requirements and such. For me, it makes the same group of skills goes faster.--[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 21:07, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :I just fixed SkillPage to include two classes. If we have three classes, then I'll go nuts. [[Lightsabre Mastery]] is one of the few with two classes. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 21:44, 16 July 2015 (PDT)
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| − | == Black Arachnia Undelete? ==
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| − | Hey, is it possible to retrieve stuff from deletion? Only one of the Black Arachnia pages was supposed to be deleted (the one with improper spelling). I just marked both since I didn't know which one it was and described it in the reason. --[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 18:54, 17 August 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Yes, it is possible. Sorry, I use mass delete to wipe everything. I'll make sure I read the reason in the future. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 18:58, 17 August 2015 (PDT)
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| − | ::Alright, np. Something to keep in mind on this side too. --[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 19:28, 17 August 2015 (PDT)
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| − | == Metastasis Page Redesign ==
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| − | Hey, so in a few hours all the template conversions will be done, barring some miscellaneous cases of things that should be deleted or archived. So considering that how it works right now (from my limited understanding) is that the DPL loading thing reads whether or not a skill page uses the [[Template:SkillPage]] or not , can you change it be to that it separates the pages to be based on if it uses [[Template:Missing Info]] or not? That way we can get the visual functionality back of which pages need to be info updated or not. Also it'd probably be a good idea to update the project description at that point. --[[User:SirKerfluffles|SirKerfluffles]] ([[User talk:SirKerfluffles|talk]]) 22:16, 31 August 2015 (PDT)
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| − | :Added. I wanted to use tabs or hiddentext, but template fails to load. The page just has no SkillPage and Missing Info lists. --[[User:Dfoplayer|Dfoplayer]] ([[User talk:Dfoplayer|talk]]) 22:48, 31 August 2015 (PDT)
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